i have just heard that the local needs item next week in the uk is to be about a new arrangement for donating online.
details will be in the september announcements letter due out on sept 3rd.
speculate at will!.
This may actually blow up in their face. Contributing through the local congregation gives a measure of social control and pressure.
Now persons may simply say if asked “I give/gave online”...even if they don’t. Witnesses are not always that honest and many PIMO can use this too.
barbara has written an autographical book detailing her experiences at brooklyn bethel : "barbara anderson uncensored - eyewitness to deceit" have any of you folks read it?.
Thanks for the tip, reading it now. So far a huge eye opener.
thursday 15 februari 2018, between 10.00 and 13.00, a committee of the dutch house of representatives will discuss jw child abuse issues during a public meeting.. for those who speak dutch, you can follow along:.
program: https://www.tweedekamer.nl/debat_en_vergadering/commissievergaderingen/details?id=2018a00016.
live stream (video): https://www.tweedekamer.nl/vergaderingen/livedebat/groen-van-prinstererzaal.
Thanks for sharing. Will be following closely.
Interesting quote from the document:
De Jehova’s Getuigen zijn opgeroepen om de door de RK Kerk genomen (preventie)maatregelen te bestuderen en waar mogelijk over te nemen.
Translated:
The JWs are advised to review the prevention measure adopted by the Roman Catholic Church and where possible to copy these.
So the Catholic Church in NL has taken more and better measured that the organization.
Curious to the outcome of the debate. Hope the summon the confidential documents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.
quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.
especially for the first sister they talk about!.
What a horrible pharisee video. Two of these three elders couldn't even find the time to read a letter and now they are judging those not quite hitting their hours. 50 hours and you should come off the list. One elder heard other elders gossiping on Br. Carpenter who should choose between LBC or pioneering. and how he dared taking a two week vacation, when he could have been knocking on not at home doors. What an unloving pharisee video. This is truly a works based organization, that doesn't care about its sheep. Their yolk is burdensome, not light.
message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
Herewith my final farewell
I would like to use this opportunity to thank you all – both on JWD and JWR for eight great years and the many virtual friendships being here resulted in. Thank you Simon for letting me be a member on JWD all these years – you are doing a good work and have many great people now joining your forum from JWR.
Don’t pin me down on every word, but I am going to try to explain what lead to the demise and fall of JWR. As admin/mods we have the constant dealing with SPAM, Trolling, Creationist/Preaching, deciding on how far you let things go and when to reign in, having to ban persons, criticism on being too strict or too tolerant, name calling (Elders, GB), banned persons coming back over and over again with new sock-puppet accounts and more. It all comes with the turf, but at times it gets to you...
Recently we had weeks of sock-puppet reappearance, name calling, innuendos and under the belt criticism on how we were handling matters – and I think that is kind of were the breaking point was reached and the decision to close JWR. Those who did these things know it themselves well and I beg you to behave well on JWD.
The way in which it was shut down, I certainly in hindsight do not agree with, and am still hoping that Rifter will be able and willing to bring it online for a given period (e.g. one week) to allow everyone to download his/her personal posts and desired threads. From what I gather the reason for this manner of closure was as we felt that people were becoming too unnecessarily dependent on the forum and that one collective had been replaced by another. By sudden closure we were hoping that some would decide to let the past go and move on – and perhaps some will. I can tell you that even though I knew a few days in advance, I declined to download my research and material – close to 10K posts – as this would still somehow keep me attached – while I want a clean start. Viewing from my personal standpoint, perhaps I too soon agreed with the manner of closure. My sincere apology here for. I still am thankful to Rifter for the many years he lead JWR – and let me state for the record, that although he accepted some donations in the beginning, the last years with his own personally circumstances allowing, he no longer accepted donations and footed the costs of running JWR himself.
To Quote Elizabeth Smart: “Be happy...live your life...move forward and do all of the things that you want to do. Because by feeling sorry for yourself and holding onto the past and reliving it over and over and over again, that’s only allowing them to steal more of your life away from you and they don’t deserve that. They don’t deserve another single second more of your life. So you be happy and you move forward”
Closing with this quote to encourage you to move on whenever you feel you are ready for it and not to stay too long in a victim role. You are no longer victims of this cult, but the lucky ones to have made it out. Do your reading and research, decide what goals you have in your life and aim to achieve these.
Take care and be well – signing off, DS
message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
Mickey, I think you and I need to leave this peace and let the dust settle...
Rifter did a great job hosting for eight years...even with this exit, he does not deserve this shit...
Heading out as TB suggested
welcome to the jwr members who have made it over to this forum.. for anyone who needs to grab info from jwr, the pages archived at the wayback machine may be useful.. these are the archived pages from april 14, 2016:.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160414040502/https://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/forum/index.php.
OC can you share some insigne to wayback? How long is this info retained and accessible?
message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
Welcome to the JWR members who have made it over to this forum.
For anyone who needs to grab info from JWR, the pages archived at the Wayback Machine may be useful.
These are the archived pages from April 14, 2016:
message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
Slimboyfat - I respect it indeed in the sense that I have tried to reverse it (and still am) without success (so far).
LoisLane - It was not my site, I was one of the site admin/moderators and frequent posters there. My mistake, that I have to live with, is to let unannounced closure happen and not being more vocal about it. Eight years of greatness down the drain by bowing out disgracefully.
welcome to the jwr members who have made it over to this forum.. for anyone who needs to grab info from jwr, the pages archived at the wayback machine may be useful.. these are the archived pages from april 14, 2016:.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160414040502/https://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/forum/index.php.
Thanks OrphanCrow
